<?xml version="1.0" encoding="UTF-8"?><rss version="2.0"
	xmlns:content="http://purl.org/rss/1.0/modules/content/"
	xmlns:dc="http://purl.org/dc/elements/1.1/"
	xmlns:atom="http://www.w3.org/2005/Atom"
	xmlns:sy="http://purl.org/rss/1.0/modules/syndication/"
		>
<channel>
	<title>Comments for McGuire on Media</title>
	<atom:link href="http://cronkite.asu.edu/mcguireblog/?feed=comments-rss2" rel="self" type="application/rss+xml" />
	<link>http://cronkite.asu.edu/mcguireblog</link>
	<description></description>
	<lastBuildDate>Sat, 02 Jun 2012 20:51:28 +0000</lastBuildDate>
	<sy:updatePeriod>hourly</sy:updatePeriod>
	<sy:updateFrequency>1</sy:updateFrequency>
	<generator>http://wordpress.org/?v=3.0.1</generator>
	<item>
		<title>Comment on This I believe about journalism, newspapers and the future of media by Neal Justin</title>
		<link>http://cronkite.asu.edu/mcguireblog/?p=304&#038;cpage=1#comment-6267</link>
		<dc:creator>Neal Justin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 02 Jun 2012 20:51:28 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid isPermaLink="false">http://cronkite.asu.edu/mcguireblog/?p=304#comment-6267</guid>
		<description>Tim: I&#039;m recommending this manifesto to all J Camp grads and the class that will be gathering in New Orleans later this month. Good stuff!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Tim: I&#8217;m recommending this manifesto to all J Camp grads and the class that will be gathering in New Orleans later this month. Good stuff!</p>
]]></content:encoded>
	</item>
	<item>
		<title>Comment on This I believe about journalism, newspapers and the future of media by Journalism: The best of times, and the worst of times &#124; TechDiem.com</title>
		<link>http://cronkite.asu.edu/mcguireblog/?p=304&#038;cpage=1#comment-6263</link>
		<dc:creator>Journalism: The best of times, and the worst of times &#124; TechDiem.com</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 02 Jun 2012 12:01:42 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid isPermaLink="false">http://cronkite.asu.edu/mcguireblog/?p=304#comment-6263</guid>
		<description>[...] rather than talking about those changes and what they mean. That’s why it’s so refreshing to read what long-time newspaper editor, Pulitzer judge and now journalism professor Tim McGuire thinks about where the industry is and where it is going — and how it should get [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] rather than talking about those changes and what they mean. That’s why it’s so refreshing to read what long-time newspaper editor, Pulitzer judge and now journalism professor Tim McGuire thinks about where the industry is and where it is going — and how it should get [...]</p>
]]></content:encoded>
	</item>
	<item>
		<title>Comment on This I believe about journalism, newspapers and the future of media by Clarence Bartram</title>
		<link>http://cronkite.asu.edu/mcguireblog/?p=304&#038;cpage=1#comment-6250</link>
		<dc:creator>Clarence Bartram</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 02 Jun 2012 05:46:39 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid isPermaLink="false">http://cronkite.asu.edu/mcguireblog/?p=304#comment-6250</guid>
		<description>You cannot talk about &quot;real reporting resources&quot; without having some kind of gateway. A good piece, but you&#039;re all over the place and I&#039;m not sure you know where the deep end is in the pool. If you think the gatekeeping function must be dissolved, then you are &quot;ignoring the well-funded reality of special interests&quot; and &quot;an unorganized world of citizen journalists&quot; is what you&#039;ll have. Without gateways, the cats will have to herd themselves.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You cannot talk about &#8220;real reporting resources&#8221; without having some kind of gateway. A good piece, but you&#8217;re all over the place and I&#8217;m not sure you know where the deep end is in the pool. If you think the gatekeeping function must be dissolved, then you are &#8220;ignoring the well-funded reality of special interests&#8221; and &#8220;an unorganized world of citizen journalists&#8221; is what you&#8217;ll have. Without gateways, the cats will have to herd themselves.</p>
]]></content:encoded>
	</item>
	<item>
		<title>Comment on This I believe about journalism, newspapers and the future of media by Journalism: The best of times, and the worst of times &#124; Apple Related</title>
		<link>http://cronkite.asu.edu/mcguireblog/?p=304&#038;cpage=1#comment-6244</link>
		<dc:creator>Journalism: The best of times, and the worst of times &#124; Apple Related</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 02 Jun 2012 03:24:50 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid isPermaLink="false">http://cronkite.asu.edu/mcguireblog/?p=304#comment-6244</guid>
		<description>[...] than talking about those changes and what they mean. That&#8217;s why it&#8217;s so refreshing to read what long-time newspaper editor, Pulitzer judge and now journalism professor Tim McGuire thinks about where the industry is and where it is going &#8212; and how it should get [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] than talking about those changes and what they mean. That&#8217;s why it&#8217;s so refreshing to read what long-time newspaper editor, Pulitzer judge and now journalism professor Tim McGuire thinks about where the industry is and where it is going &#8212; and how it should get [...]</p>
]]></content:encoded>
	</item>
	<item>
		<title>Comment on This I believe about journalism, newspapers and the future of media by Jay Rosen</title>
		<link>http://cronkite.asu.edu/mcguireblog/?p=304&#038;cpage=1#comment-6236</link>
		<dc:creator>Jay Rosen</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 02 Jun 2012 00:49:54 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid isPermaLink="false">http://cronkite.asu.edu/mcguireblog/?p=304#comment-6236</guid>
		<description>Thanks for writing this, Tim. I am going to share  it with my network on Twitter and Facebook, and recommend it, as well.

I endorse almost everything you have written here.

There were two spots I found myself groaning a little, and one where I thought you over-simplified.

Yes, Digital First is not the Holy Grail, but no one said it is, no one except writers making the obvious point that it isn&#039;t. So I don&#039;t see how it adds to your argument.

Similarly: who in this debate thinks a citizen journalism idyl is out there as a reasonable replacement for what is being destroyed? To me you&#039;re talking to phantoms there, but if there are such arguments being made and some take them seriously when they shouldn&#039;t, let&#039;s hear about it. 

The over-simplification was in this graph: &quot;I believe quality news organizations should view the current taste for affirmation rather than information (aka Fox versus MSNBC)  as a premier challenge. Rather than passively accepting the ugly fact that too many citizens are enamored of this kind of affirmation, responsible news organizations need to contrast and compare their performance.&quot;

There are several problems with this. It&#039;s convenient, it feels good, and it makes argument easier to claim otherwise, but I do not think Fox and MSNBC are the same, journalistically, even though the temptation is to see them as matching twins and there are many aspects of their performance that confirms it.

This for example would be unthinkable at MSNBC, but it is routine for Fox and its leadership.

http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/erik-wemple/post/roger-ailes-attests-to-fox-newss-factual-perfection/2012/04/13/gIQAQSi6ET_blog.html

But more than that: &quot;people want to hear news that confirms what they already believe&quot; is just way too pat an attitude to take toward this issue. You have to also look at the fact that viewlessness and &quot;balance&quot; and &quot;leave it there&quot; journalism have failed, and their failure expands as the partisan divide grows. 

David Gregory avoids the sins of Fox and MSNBC; he is also helpless, hopeless and completely at sea in interviewing, say, Ed Gillespie and David Axelrod, which he does routinely. I think the failure of that ritual and the &quot;quote both sides and leave it there&quot; model, such as the AP still uses, deserve more of your attention.

But.... These are small objections. Overall, I think your observations are accurate, shrewd, insightful, supple and even at times courageous in the way they depart from what many in your peer group tend to believe about the present moment. I appreciated especially the moments of blunt talk. 

Thanks for an important and remarkably complete assessment of where we are now. Cheers, Tim.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks for writing this, Tim. I am going to share  it with my network on Twitter and Facebook, and recommend it, as well.</p>
<p>I endorse almost everything you have written here.</p>
<p>There were two spots I found myself groaning a little, and one where I thought you over-simplified.</p>
<p>Yes, Digital First is not the Holy Grail, but no one said it is, no one except writers making the obvious point that it isn&#8217;t. So I don&#8217;t see how it adds to your argument.</p>
<p>Similarly: who in this debate thinks a citizen journalism idyl is out there as a reasonable replacement for what is being destroyed? To me you&#8217;re talking to phantoms there, but if there are such arguments being made and some take them seriously when they shouldn&#8217;t, let&#8217;s hear about it. </p>
<p>The over-simplification was in this graph: &#8220;I believe quality news organizations should view the current taste for affirmation rather than information (aka Fox versus MSNBC)  as a premier challenge. Rather than passively accepting the ugly fact that too many citizens are enamored of this kind of affirmation, responsible news organizations need to contrast and compare their performance.&#8221;</p>
<p>There are several problems with this. It&#8217;s convenient, it feels good, and it makes argument easier to claim otherwise, but I do not think Fox and MSNBC are the same, journalistically, even though the temptation is to see them as matching twins and there are many aspects of their performance that confirms it.</p>
<p>This for example would be unthinkable at MSNBC, but it is routine for Fox and its leadership.</p>
<p><a href="http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/erik-wemple/post/roger-ailes-attests-to-fox-newss-factual-perfection/2012/04/13/gIQAQSi6ET_blog.html" rel="nofollow">http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/erik-wemple/post/roger-ailes-attests-to-fox-newss-factual-perfection/2012/04/13/gIQAQSi6ET_blog.html</a></p>
<p>But more than that: &#8220;people want to hear news that confirms what they already believe&#8221; is just way too pat an attitude to take toward this issue. You have to also look at the fact that viewlessness and &#8220;balance&#8221; and &#8220;leave it there&#8221; journalism have failed, and their failure expands as the partisan divide grows. </p>
<p>David Gregory avoids the sins of Fox and MSNBC; he is also helpless, hopeless and completely at sea in interviewing, say, Ed Gillespie and David Axelrod, which he does routinely. I think the failure of that ritual and the &#8220;quote both sides and leave it there&#8221; model, such as the AP still uses, deserve more of your attention.</p>
<p>But&#8230;. These are small objections. Overall, I think your observations are accurate, shrewd, insightful, supple and even at times courageous in the way they depart from what many in your peer group tend to believe about the present moment. I appreciated especially the moments of blunt talk. </p>
<p>Thanks for an important and remarkably complete assessment of where we are now. Cheers, Tim.</p>
]]></content:encoded>
	</item>
	<item>
		<title>Comment on This I believe about journalism, newspapers and the future of media by Perez</title>
		<link>http://cronkite.asu.edu/mcguireblog/?p=304&#038;cpage=1#comment-6229</link>
		<dc:creator>Perez</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 01 Jun 2012 16:55:42 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid isPermaLink="false">http://cronkite.asu.edu/mcguireblog/?p=304#comment-6229</guid>
		<description>Fine piece, Tim. Hope it gets traction. Best, -Skip.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Fine piece, Tim. Hope it gets traction. Best, -Skip.</p>
]]></content:encoded>
	</item>
	<item>
		<title>Comment on This I believe about journalism, newspapers and the future of media by Gordon Helm</title>
		<link>http://cronkite.asu.edu/mcguireblog/?p=304&#038;cpage=1#comment-6228</link>
		<dc:creator>Gordon Helm</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 01 Jun 2012 16:05:12 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid isPermaLink="false">http://cronkite.asu.edu/mcguireblog/?p=304#comment-6228</guid>
		<description>Excellent!  It is good to know that the future of so many prospective journalists is in your capable hands.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Excellent!  It is good to know that the future of so many prospective journalists is in your capable hands.</p>
]]></content:encoded>
	</item>
	<item>
		<title>Comment on This I believe about journalism, newspapers and the future of media by Mary Peskin</title>
		<link>http://cronkite.asu.edu/mcguireblog/?p=304&#038;cpage=1#comment-6226</link>
		<dc:creator>Mary Peskin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 01 Jun 2012 13:39:55 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid isPermaLink="false">http://cronkite.asu.edu/mcguireblog/?p=304#comment-6226</guid>
		<description>Thanks Tim. I found your post through Steve Buttry. What a great way to start my day. I feel better about everything after reading it. Curious and intrigued about your thoughts on a creativity course.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks Tim. I found your post through Steve Buttry. What a great way to start my day. I feel better about everything after reading it. Curious and intrigued about your thoughts on a creativity course.</p>
]]></content:encoded>
	</item>
	<item>
		<title>Comment on This I believe about journalism, newspapers and the future of media by Vito Gallotta</title>
		<link>http://cronkite.asu.edu/mcguireblog/?p=304&#038;cpage=1#comment-6222</link>
		<dc:creator>Vito Gallotta</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 01 Jun 2012 10:27:29 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid isPermaLink="false">http://cronkite.asu.edu/mcguireblog/?p=304#comment-6222</guid>
		<description>I agree on the point. It&#039;s a time of big change, but we have to ask if people in the world want less or more informations. I tink people want more informations. So we have to face the change and find the better way of using new technologies to give more and better informations. We have to work on a world level to make this approach operative. And we should discuss deeply through the networks created by journalist blogs  of these questions.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I agree on the point. It&#8217;s a time of big change, but we have to ask if people in the world want less or more informations. I tink people want more informations. So we have to face the change and find the better way of using new technologies to give more and better informations. We have to work on a world level to make this approach operative. And we should discuss deeply through the networks created by journalist blogs  of these questions.</p>
]]></content:encoded>
	</item>
	<item>
		<title>Comment on This I believe about journalism, newspapers and the future of media by simone</title>
		<link>http://cronkite.asu.edu/mcguireblog/?p=304&#038;cpage=1#comment-6221</link>
		<dc:creator>simone</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 01 Jun 2012 06:40:36 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid isPermaLink="false">http://cronkite.asu.edu/mcguireblog/?p=304#comment-6221</guid>
		<description>This is a balanced article making valid points. The problem is that the cheapening of news brought forward by the digital revolution has backfired for professional writers who are expected to write for very low rates or even free  for self promotion. 

Media organisations in the UK tend to hire young people so they can capitalise on their enthusiasm and keep rates down. Even in specialist fields like subediting (copyediting in US), the rates are the same as 10 years ago if not worse. 

No wonder many journalists turn to PR, marketing and the corporate world, where writing skills are rewarded and there is still some respect for quality standards.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This is a balanced article making valid points. The problem is that the cheapening of news brought forward by the digital revolution has backfired for professional writers who are expected to write for very low rates or even free  for self promotion. </p>
<p>Media organisations in the UK tend to hire young people so they can capitalise on their enthusiasm and keep rates down. Even in specialist fields like subediting (copyediting in US), the rates are the same as 10 years ago if not worse. </p>
<p>No wonder many journalists turn to PR, marketing and the corporate world, where writing skills are rewarded and there is still some respect for quality standards.</p>
]]></content:encoded>
	</item>
</channel>
</rss>
